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Is AAR membership important in an Agent?
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Brian
Posted 2008-12-16 1:31 PM (#231524)
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In every issue in Writer's Digest's InkWell section, we pose a thought-provoking question related to the writing life. In the February issue, Scott Hoffman details how agents don’t necessarily need to be members of the Association of Authors’ Representatives to be excellent cogs in the literary wheel:

http://www.writersdigest.com/article/is-your-agent-legit

When it comes to agents, is AAR membership important to you, and why?

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Jamesaritchie
Posted 2008-12-27 4:27 PM (#234936 - in reply to #231524)
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Is AAR membership absolutely necessary? No, but lack of it certainly casts doubts. Scott Hoffman may be a great agent for all I know, but I also wouldn't go within ten miles of an agent who also does book packaging deals. I've yet to hear even a semi-logical reason for not joining the AAR, and Hoffman certainly doesn't give one in his article.
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jrtomlin
Posted 2008-12-27 8:42 PM (#234989 - in reply to #234936)
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I know several excellent agents who choose not to join the AAR. I go by an agent's sales record.

Have they sold to Baen? How about Tor? How about DAW? How many sales to they have listed in Locus? What is their rating in fantasy sales in Publisher's Marketplace?

If they don't have a sales record in my genre, frankly, whether they're AAR members or not, I don't care to talk to them.

If they have, then why should I care whether they're a "joiner" or not?

So bottom line, frankly, I don't care about AAR membership. There are ways to tell one hell of a lot more about agents than that.

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Jamesaritchie
Posted 2008-12-28 3:11 PM (#235320 - in reply to #234989)
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jrtomlin - 2008-12-27 7:42 PM I know several excellent agents who choose not to join the AAR. I go by an agent's sales record. Have they sold to Baen? How about Tor? How about DAW? How many sales to they have listed in Locus? What is their rating in fantasy sales in Publisher's Marketplace? If they don't have a sales record in my genre, frankly, whether they're AAR members or not, I don't care to talk to them. If they have, then why should I care whether they're a "joiner" or not? So bottom line, frankly, I don't care about AAR membership. There are ways to tell one hell of a lot more about agents than that.
Sales record is the primary thing to look at, but a lot of agents with a great sales record do things that are not good for writers, and that AAR membership prohibits.
"Not joiners" is, from my experience, nonsense.  When an agent doesn't join the AAR, that agent is likely doing something that the AAR would prohibit, even if it's book packaging.
Seloling books is great, it's the primary thing to look at, but this alone does not make an agent desirable, or above board. 
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jrtomlin
Posted 2008-12-28 4:53 PM (#235358 - in reply to #235320)
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If you want to only consider AAR members that's your choice. I pointed out there is another way of looking at it. The idea of deciding on something as important as an agent based on organization membership doesn't strike me as necessarily wise. *shrug*

There are some well respected agents out there who have chosen for one reason or another not to join AAR. Frequently it's a matter of pure politics which are rife in every such organization.

Edit: Incidentally, being an AAR member doesn't make an agent necessarily desirable or even above board. I rather doubt that you actually think that it does.

They have to have a record of some sales and agree to the Canon of Ethics. While this puts them a substantial step ahead of the worst of the literary agents out there, there are still plenty of things that can go wrong. They can get on the bad side of editors and no longer make sales or they can do a number of things that ARE allowed by the Canon of Ethics which in my opinion are questionable.

So personally I don't rule an agent out because they don't belong to the AAR. But then when I was looking for an agent, I knew far more about the ones I queried than seems to be typical. I knew who their clients were, what they had sold, when they sold it, approximately for how much, and what their clients thought of them. In my opinion, if you're going to hire an agent (your employee, remember) you should find all that out before the fact.


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Gladys
Posted 2009-01-02 4:12 PM (#237788 - in reply to #231524)
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Question to Is AAR membership important in an Agent. I am trying to make a decision to go with Writers Literary Agency. The problem I have is that before they will work with me on my manuscript they want me to have a paid for professional critique of my story. I don't know if I should take the "offer" to manage me or not. I don't know any of the writers they say they have published and have no way of contacting them. Does anyone have any ideas about this agency? Thanks
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hexedbird
Posted 2009-01-02 9:12 PM (#237860 - in reply to #231524)
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I've seen scams where an agency says they like your work BUT they want an editor to give it a once over for a nominal fee. They start with a presentation about why this is the way to go. Stay clear of this kind of thing. These kinds of agencies aren't members of AAR and there's a good reason for that.

If an agent likes your work they may make suggestions about rewrites or gve you a tip or two to take you over the next leg of the acceptance process, but these fronts for paid editorial services are generally scams.
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jrtomlin
Posted 2009-01-02 9:42 PM (#237868 - in reply to #237860)
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That is very true.

ALWAYS check on agents and you'll avoid a world of hurt.

Gladys, I would start by checking the agency or agent in question with Writers Beware http://www.sfwa.org/Beware/ as well as with Preditors & Editors http://anotherealm.com/prededitors/ . Those two will let you know the reputation and to some extent the sales record of the agency or agent involved.


Edited by jrtomlin 2009-01-02 9:48 PM
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